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POST 1: Sherri
Professional breeders are not like "back yard breeders".
Professional breeders are primarily concerned with weeding out the genetic
defects that many breeds are plagued with. I don't think you have any
real understanding of what professional breeders do.
Sherri
POST 2: Nameless1
Are you saying nobody should breed dogs? If nobody bred dogs
we would be left with only mutts.
POST 3: anonymous
I'm against back yard breeders and puppy millers also, but to lump breeders who are trying to produce better dogs into that category is just plain ignorant.
There are different types of dogs for different types of people. How on earth do you think that happens without selective breeding? The problem is not with responsible breeders who require neutering agreements when they place pets. The problem is your average family who decides to produce a litter as a sex education lesson for their children and let their dogs run loose through the neighborhood without being neutered. Most of the dogs found in animal shelters are not dogs that were produced by responsible breeders. I think your concern may be better directed toward "human" breeders rather than responsible dog breeders.
POST 4: Annie39
I'm so tired of hearing breeders try to defend what they do by saying that if it were not for humans selectively breeding dogs, we would not have different breeds. How does this explain the different breeds of large cats? Humans did not create different breeds of large cats, yet we have them because of mother nature (to put it simply). There are also many species of birds, frogs, turtles and all sorts of other animals and we did not need the selective breeding of humans to create them. I guess breeders will tell themselves whatever they need to in order to feel good about themselves though.
Annie39
POST 5: Peter D.
I agree with all others that have left their opinions so
far. Many breeds were genetically engineered, that's true, but it was at
least over a century ago for all common breeds, centuries longer for
others, and was done so for a purpose - mainly the working dog. Even if
you disagree with the past, it's 100, 400 years ago! Let's get over it
and move on. Different breeds serve a different role in society and the
lives of the different people who own them. This is the reality of
today. For one, I bet The Blind Society would agree whole-heartedly with
this view.
The domestic dog's ancestry stems from wolves. If they were left alone
without selective breeding, the spread of the human race could well
have led them into extinction long ago. Especially due to their
protective, pack, survival and territorial instincts. Furthermore, can you
imagine an elderly person or a family with young children opening their home
to a wolf-like puppy?
I agree with your plight to find unwanted dogs a new home, but how many
dogs on your list were pure-bread from a breeder and were later found
neglected. People don't pay $500 - $1000 for a puppy and then abandon
them when they tired of ownership.
At least you're allowing others to provide their opinion. Has anyone
ever agreed with your ideas? Maybe a re-think on your part is required.
For the record, I am not a breeder, nor connected in that field. I have
owned both pure-breeds and cross-breeds and find both to be loving
pets.
Kind regards,
Peter D.
POST 6: anonymous
I would love to adopt a golden retriever. I had one years
ago and he was my best friend. Sadly, he passed away and after five
years I am ready to find a new best friend. I am looking for a golden
retriever and I have checked the shelters nearby. I have been checking for
about 6 months now. One shelter did get one in but he was adopted
before I could get there. I have looked at rescues, I thought that would
be a super idea. I would be saving a life and getting what I am looking
for. Well, first you have to fill out an online application. Then IF
you meet their approval, you have to agree to let them come to your house
and check it out. Are you allowed to check out their house? NO! It's
worse than having social services come to your home and check out how
you raise your children! Then they want to make sure you have a fenced
back yard. Well, I have a fenced back yard but don't plan on keeping my
new friend there. I want him or her to be a member of my family !
and live indoors where he or she belongs. Why do they need to see my
back yard, why do they need to see my house? Then after they invade
your territory they have to decide IF you are good enough. I KNOW I would
be a great mom to any dog, I don't need someone judging me and my
ability to care for a dog. I don't need them deciding whether I deserve to
have a pup. That is why I will buy my new friend from a breeder.
POST 7: Webmaster
In regards to the anonymous post #6...
It is because the rescue societies care about the animals they are helping that they require people that want to adopt a dog to provide a good deal of information. If you were going to put someone or something up for adoption that you cared about, you would want to do your very best to make sure it was going to a good home. Any conscientious breeder will also interview a potential buyer. If saving a life isn't worth a little extra effort to you, then go ahead and "buy" your new friend, but know that the best friends in life are often the ones you don't have to buy.
POST 8: Randy
You know what else burns me up? Now you are hearing all
the shelters complaining about over population, but a growing # of
shelters/rescues around the country are importing dogs and contacting other
shelters/rescues and having animals shipped into their state/county and
placing them because of such HIGH demands. Isn't that strange? Here
is just one example of what is going on:
Why add more burdens to our already faulty system? By importing
animals from out of the USA is just causing more deaths that are already
here in our country and throwing off all accurate figures of shelter
animals.
More cities importing pound puppies
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-01-30-dogs-usat_x.htm
Your reasoning here is off in my opinion. The way I see it is that no
one is twisting your arm or holding a gun to your head to purchase from
any specific person. That is YOUR INDIVIDUAL job and business to
determine whether that specific person is up to YOUR standards.
Any idiot should know better that go into a place and see obvious
abuse, neglect, filthy and sickly animals etc.. and buy from that
situation. You would be enabling the source and thus the problem of why puppy
mills exist. IF you did buy from a place like that then YOU made that
WRONG decision. Is it the "Consumer's" job to know the difference
between a responsible hobby breeder and a puppy mill and it is their
job/decision to stir clear of unworthy breeders. How can you blame
someone else for your conscious decisions? And then once an idiot 'consumer'
did purchase from a place like this knowing FULL well what the animals
came from, etc.. then they want to sit and bitch and moan about
unhealthy animals. What stupidly that is!
Again, if the 'consumers' would not buy from such places then such
places would NOT exist! Fact-- no money - no puppy mill breeding!
Again, educating Irresponsible owners and that would solve the VAST
majority of all problems!
The facts are that very very few breeders contribute to the pet over
population in shelters in comparison to MUTTS. Breeders are not the
major factor affecting the pet over population. Irresponsible Owners
are!
HOWEVER, there are no more bad breeders than there are bad RESCUES,
Shelters and such. So why lump all breeders into one category? Why
focus on them when they are not the cause of pet over population.
Why not make your smear campaign on the irresponsible owners of the
world who are causing the problems?
Why always blame the breeder for everything?
Why should responsible breeders be held accountable for a very select
few in comparison?
With that token, why not hold all rescue people responsible and put a
smear companion on them because of the select few who are not
responsible and ethical rescuers?
Why must purebreds be targeted the problem when in reality they are
not?
I never said that purebreds don't end up in shelters but it is on a
VERY minimal level compared to MUTTS. And I never said MUTTS should be
put to death just because they are not purebred.
They deserve a life just the same as the next, however you are
targeting the minority of the people causing the problems. Why not start
where the REAL and major problems lie. i.e. the Irresponsible owner
FIRST?
If that was taken care of then there wouldn't be much to complain
about?
I do rescue and I KNOW where the problems stem from. And it is those
same cat and dog owners you speak so passionately about... I'm not
sick and tired of responsible breeders, but sick and tired of having to
walk into shelters and see MUTT after MUTT sitting there whom are owner
turn ins, drop offs, cast offs, etc. Any logical person starts at the
heart of the problem first and that is MUTTS.
So, we once again come back to putting the blame where it belongs.
NOT with the breeders, but with Irresponsible Pet Owners.
Again, education, education, education.
Without responsible breeding of all animals, not just dogs/cats, but
horses, cows, goats, birds, etc.. the animals/breeds would become
extintct. Do you believe all horses, cows, goats, pigs, birds, etc.. should
also be altered? Do you also believe that all zoo animals and animals
on the verge of extintion in captive and screened breeding programs
should also be altered and not bred? After all there are exotic animals
who are castaways also, etc.. So, should ailing animals not be put to
sleep? They could be considered on "death row" as well? By your view
point we won't have any animals left right? Because if what you said
was done then all the mutts would be altered as well right? Hummm.
SO, let me recap exactly what you said alter all animals until all are
adopted and no more on death row, allow breeds, exotics, etc.. to stop
and exist no more. How long will it take to adopt out all the mutts
you speak of? By that time do you think any animals will exist? S!
urely someone who has done their research would have a "plan" right?
Really, you are entitled to your opinion, but it far from being
logical.
Who is gonna fund the costs of this mass spay/neuter in all animals
until there are No unwanted animals left on "death row"? You?
I invite you to come on down to our rescue and pay for some of the
altering and finding homes, etc.. We accept all help :-) Yes, I'm
against puppy mills which are evil, etc. but I love my purebreds and would
completely against a mass alteration of all animals and I'm against all
these laws AR's are trying to inflect upon people! Any such thing is
gonna affect humanity and mankind alike. It isn't just gonna cause
problems for the trouble breeders, but for everyone involved in animals
INCLUDING RESCUES!
Good point. However, there is enough blame to go around.
At some point people are going to have to fall off one side of the
fence or the other and not ride the rail all the time (so to speak). We
can't have one thing one way for a certain # of people and have it
another way for others.
If you can justify blame on the breeder because of what a 2nd and 3rd
party does and may or may not be aware of and of which they really have
no 100% control over. Then if you can still blame the original
"source" by exactly what your saying here then we could say just for a
example (not saying your family are criminals or anything it is just an
example): It's just the same as saying that we can Lay blame on you for
what your children, brother, sister, parents or cousin's are doing such as
breaking the law, abusing a child and/or animal, etc. just because you
are directly related to them & associated with them? Would you not be
the "Original" source of your children? Should you go to prison
because they go out and kill someone or act irresponsibly? Should you be
held accountable for another SEPARATE person's actions, beliefs and
ideals?
That is like saying that the white community of today should be held
responsible for what happened during slavery.
I mean come on, great real.
Well, it greatly depends on whether the pups sold are "Show, breeder or
pet" quality. All responsible breeders/owners alter the pets.
There's no argument there.
But of those thousands how many are Purebred from actual "breeders"? I
can tell you, a very very minimal amount. The vast majority of cats
that you speak of are MUTTS.
Why not blame the source of these thousands? That blame lies with
irresponsible owners. So, your casting blame shadows for those thousands
of dying animals on a whole lot of people who have nothing at all to do
with their existence. These come SOLELY from Irresponsible Owners.
Plain and simple. The majority of dogs in shelters are MUTTS and come
from irresponsible owners, NOT breeders!
Well, firstly the blame game should shift to where it belongs and
target those people through education, education, education and more
education. The laws that are spoken of via this list are for the most part
ineffective solutions to animal control problems because it fails to
address the heart of the real issue -- irresponsible ownership.
Without proper education, etc. it doesn't matter whether they own 5 dogs or
1, whether MUTT or purebred, irresponsible owners will still allow their
animals to run loose, leave their mess in a neighbor's yard, not spay
or neuter them, or bark long into the night and so forth.
1. The laws that the AR's are trying to get passed whether limit laws,
license's, etc.. are not needed and even if put into effect they are
extremely difficult to enforce and can be evaded by irresponsible animal
owners. I.E. The REAL SOURCE OF THE OVER POPULATION PROBLEM!!!!!
For example, individuals may choose not to license their pets as a way
to avoid regulation. Animal control officers therefore have no way of
knowing how many pets an owner has unless they make regular
door-to-door inspections. To do so would be an expensive, time-consuming
process that in many cases would require a search warrant. Fewer licenses
also means less revenue for city government.
2. These laws often force caring, responsible owners & breeders to
surrender their animals to shelters that are already overcrowded, thereby
increasing a city's shelter population problems and euthanasia rates.
This is not rectifying the problems, but merely causing more and more.
3. Hoping to evade limit laws and registration license's, people may
try to hide the number of dogs they own. To do so, owners avoid taking
their animals to veterinarians and getting needed vaccinations. This
may affect rabies prevention and threaten public safety. It also
jeopardizes the animals' health.
4. In many cases, communities already have nuisance laws in place
that, if properly enforced, could reduce animal control problems. Passing
new laws is a lengthy, expensive process that only burdens public
officials and taxpayers without resolving the issue at hand.
5. These laws target all owners, regardless of their actions or the
behavior of their animals. Responsible owners should be allowed to use
their own discretion in determining the number of dogs they can keep
and if they choose to breed on their own property.
6. Example: A limit on the number of dogs one can own would restrict
the many responsible breeders who raise and breed purebred dogs for the
purpose of showing. These breeders make a serious commitment to their
animals, not to make a huge profit, but instead with the intention of
promoting the sport of purebred dogs and improving the individual breeds.
7. These type of laws would impact the many responsible fanciers who
rescue unwanted animals and either personally adopt them as pets or
find them permanent homes.
Better Solutions Are Available:
Strongly enforced animal control laws, nuisance regulations
requiring pet owners to be respectful of neighbors and society, and increased
public education efforts are all better ways to address the issue of
irresponsible dog ownership.
Enforce and Fund Animal shelters to spay/neuter all animals, etc.
prior to adoption from these avenues. This would ensure these
animals can not reproduce in the future and hopefully not wind up in a
shelter again in the future.
Effective leash and curbing laws would prevent irresponsible
owners from letting their pets run loose, possibly endangering the public
and other animals and stopping a vast amount of 'Oops' MUTT litters in
the process. Clean-up ordinances, as well as noise, odor and nuisance
regulations, would require all pet owners to take responsibility for their
animals and recognize their obligations to society. For those who do violate nuisance and laws, alternative sentencing
in the form of community service at an animal shelter or participation
in obedience classes would help correct irresponsible behavior.
Use of an arbitrator to mediate neighborhood animal disputes would
help settle personal arguments that are not indicative of an animal
control problem. A public education campaign would help teach community residents
how to properly care for and interact with pets, as well as the need to
be a courteous neighbor.
I am very much for and very interested in developing fair and effective
animal control laws, as well as bolstering public education efforts to
promote responsible pet ownership.
To help achieve such goals, I suggest that more responsible pet owners
and breeders who want to be FAIR to assist the community by serving on
or starting animal control advisory boards to monitor animal-related
problems and develop reasonable solutions. Many already do volunteer
their time and resources to help start or improve public education
campaigns to teach responsible dog ownership. Thus, where the over
population problem is!
I agree with the statement that a more active role should be taken by
all breeders, however I know or know of many, many, many numerous
breeders who do rescue. Can someone save them all? NO, but where is the
responsible pet owners who dumped these animals?
Where does their fault begin? The FACT is that it is their fault the
animals are there and in that position. Maybe, just maybe, these
people refused to contact the breeder about such decisions being made to
dump that animal? Maybe, just maybe, they refused to answer the
breeder's inquiries about the animal? Maybe, just maybe, they moved without
telling the breeder their new address and phone #? Maybe this one
time it wasn't their fault?
In situations like this, why does it always have to be blamed on the
fault of the breeder? There are a Million reasons why those dogs ended
up there and just maybe it wasn't the breeder's fault. Or maybe the
breeder made a bad choice with whom to place a puppy this time? But
do you know anyone who doesn't make a mistake? Do you know anyone who
is perfect all the time?
Where's the irresponsible pet owners fault and responsibility?
Granted there are those people who don't keep in close contact with all
their purchasers, but can a person really be expected to 100% make sure
that each and every person is doing exactly what they promised to do,
24/7. No, that is unrealistic and not possible.
A breeder can't 100% keep track of these animals 27/7/365 of the
time/day/year and Neither can any rescue, any animal rights person or anyone
else for that matter.
The key here is Education. Public Awareness and Pet owner Education.
If Irresponsible owners were STOPPED then there wouldn't a problem.
My Question is why not target The true problem with pet overpopulation,
Irresponsible owners? The vast majority over 80% of dogs in shelters
are MUTTS, not purebreds, so why target responsible breeders?
"Hastily enacted proposals, driven by emotions, can cause harm to the
very animals people seek to protect.
CLAIM: Cat Licensing will make cat owners more responsible.
Caring can't be mandated, and a licensing mandate will only end up
punishing those who care. There are millions of compassionate people
who provide abandoned cats with food, love, and shelter in their own
homes. For every one of these caregivers, mandatory cat licensing
will exact a heavy toll. These people will either have to pay the
license fees - or face citations, fines, penalties, and possible
confiscation of the animals they love. These new burdens, inflicted
on the very people who are doing the most to help cats in their
communities, will force many to stop caring for these animals, or at
least force them to care for fewer cats, with the net result being
more cats left to fend for themselves and fewer people able to
provide them with any kind of safety net at all.
Needless to say, truly irresponsible cat owners won't be affected. If
the law isn't enforced, they are free to ignore it. If it is enforced
against them, they are likely to surrender or abandon their animals,
which will only add to the number of cats killed."
To read more of this go:
http://www.cfainc.org/articles/sfspca.html
Micro-managing, More laws, etc. is NOT the answer to the problems of
Pet over population and the #'s of unwanted pets or should I say 85%+
MUTTS in the shelters. There are already PLENTY of laws on the books
to cover what should be done, but the problem lies with there is NO
ONE to enforce what laws we already have.
These type of laws you speak of ONLY hurt those good people out there
who go above and beyond in rearing animals. I suppose most AR's
don't want to see any purebreds bred in society or at least that is
what it sounds like. Because nothing is ever good enough and most
AR's are always looking for someone to blame. The so called "
bad Breeders who causes pain and suffering" will just go under the
radar to breed and then who is it hurting?!
As they say, if you want to attack flies then use Honey, so I don't
believe all the hype that the AR's are using is gonna work. Forcing
something or anything down a person's throat will have NO good
results. This is the USA people and in this country people do have
the right to CHOOSE! Just as you and I have the right to not breed
or to rescue or to name our animals whatever we please and the lists
go on and on! Sometimes things may not be right, but who the hell
are we to FORCE judgement and inflated and exaggerated measures on a
minority? Good God it will be slavery all over again!
All the talk about breeders this and breeders that and the pain &
suffering they cause, etc. etc. etc. It's such a crock of crap and
frankly I get SOOOOOOO tired of hearing it. IT IS NOT THE BREEDER OR
PUREBREDS WHO are CAUSING PET OVER POPULATION
PEOPLE!!! Any effects of the bad apples
is extremely minimal compared to irresponsible ownership and the
MUTTS of society!
YES, I used to exhibit and breed. However, I am doing rescue and I
no longer want to anymore, nor do I have the time with my work
schedule and why? NO, IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF "BREEDERS". It's
because of idiots who call themselves PET OWNERS. I've seen it and
I've rescued from it and THE PROBLEM LIES WITH IRRESPONSIBLE IDIOT
OWNERS!
EXAMPLE: I went to 3 local shelters yesterday to look
for "Purebreds" to rescue and you want to know how man I found: 5
out of hundreds and hundreds and 2 of these were reclaimed by owners
while I was there! So this breeder bashing and laying all the
problems at their door step time and time again DOES NOT WASH with
me. I've seen it with my own eyes and rescue from it, so it is not
some fantasy dream that I have in my head of what "I think or I'm
told" is happening out there in the "REAL WORLD" folks!
IRRESPONSIBLE IDIOT OWNERS, IRRESPONSIBLE IDIOT OWNERS, IRRESPONSIBLE
IDIOT OWNERS, and I will continue to shout it from the
roof top if need be.
Irresponsible owners who allow their mutts to just run around day in
and day out with no care to spay/neutering their MUTTS and not caring
if they get pregnant by the other MUTTS that roam the roads and
continue to have litter after litter of MORE MUTTS! Then they just
dump the mother and babies when they decide they have had enough and
don't want to care for them anymore.
You want facts, well here are some facts about cats and dogs are the
same way. I'm sure you can come up with 'facts' that say just the
opposite, but I personally see this to be true day in and day out, so
I know these are facts. PUREBREDS & BREEDERS (even though there are
a very few bad apples in everything ~ NO different than the extremist
AR'S and then the people who might actually care) ARE NOT THE
PROBLEM HERE FOLKS AND ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU OTHER WISE IS MAKING
FALSE STATMENTS!
"Euthanasia of healthy adoptable animals is tragic, but these ARE NOT
THE FAULT OF ALL BREEDERS AND PUREBREDS, quite the opposite. The reasons
for this are multivarious,
therefore solutions are complex and will differ in each community &
state. Representatives of various humane groups have told me that
breeders contribute "significantly", but no one has yet been able to
cite any accurate figures and I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS WITH MY OWN TWO
EYES. For one thing, there is a common misconception that breeding
leads to overpopulation, and this is simply not the case. Less than
one-half of one percent of all who end up in shelters are purebreds,
and even this might be a high estimate. Less than 3% of all OWNED
cats worldwide are purebred -- note this says OWNED, because this
does not count the millions of feral and stray cats that are not
owned or claimed by anyone."
http://www.netcat.org/ar-vs-aw.html
http://www.cfainc.org/articles/sfspca.html
http://www.cfainc.org/articles/why-not-coerce.html
http://www.whiteshepherdrescue.org/reasons.htm
http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/carraig/profits.html
http://www.fanciers.com/npa/sandiego.html
http://www.cfainc.org/articles/due-credit.html
A FEW CAT FACTS:
Total U.S. owned cat population – 71 million.
Of the 71 million, 87% are already neutered or spayed by their
caring owners.
Total unowned/feral cat population – est. 25-40 million
Number of cats entering shelters annually – 8.3 million
Far more than half of cats entering shelters are relinquished by
their owners for reasons such as: a) moving b) landlord won't allow
pet; c) too many animals in household; d) cost of pet maintenance; e)
owner's personal problems; etc.
Approximately half of the cats entering shelters are unadoptable
because they are too old, sick, have serious behavior problems, or
are unweaned litters of unowned/feral cats.
Less than 1% of cats entering shelters are purebred
It is estimated that approximately 6% of all cats in the world are
purebred.
I SUPPORT & encourage ALL to support, promote, & get involved in
ETHICAL rescue efforts, responsible animal ownership, exhibition, breeding
and reasonable
laws. I OPPOSE radical animal rights solutions to animal issues! These
laws & Limits WILL effect RESCUE efforts to!
It's NOT an over-population or PUREBRED problem;
it's an OWNER irresponsibility problem.
"STOP THE KILLING; BE A RESPONSIBLE OWNER;
TRAIN YOUR PET - KEEP YOUR PET"
http://www.naiaonline.org/naia_rescue.htm
I'M A "OWNER" & PLEASE USE "OWNER" TOO!!!.....A key marker to NEW
LEGISLATION being advanced by Animal Rights groups is
the use of the tag "Guardian" in place of the word "Owner." This
choice of wording may sound innocuous, but it has strategic legal
ramifications designed to curtail our own rights to enjoy our relationships with
our domestic animals, as pet owners, responsible breeders, exhibitors,
animal sports enthusiasts, trainers, etc. Be
aware!
POST 9: Webmaster
Wow! Randy (above post) great post. Although I disagree with a very few of your points, this is the most educated and researched post I have received. Because you mention quite a few valid points that no one has brought up yet, as soon as I have a few extra minutes, I am going to add a link to this post on the homepage of this site. I did remove one of the links in your list, the one to the Tripod site. This is because Tripod sites always have pop-ups and often spyware and we try not to link to any sites with pop-ups.
I would especially like to state for the benefit of all, that I agree that some humane societies and rescue groups seem to be in the business of selling more than saving dogs. ALL of these groups should be Non Profit Organizations and many are not. Being a NPO would not solve everything, but it would at least make it more difficult for these groups to make money that will not go towards helping the animals.
I would also like to state that irresponsible pet owners contribute to the homeless pet population more than breeders do. It did not used to be this way, but with an increasing level of awareness of puppy mills and a few "greedy" breeders, the main cause of the problem has shifted to individual irresponsible pet owners in the last few years.
I also don't think we should stop importing homeless dogs from other countries, not if we have a need for them. I do strongly believe we can help other countries find a better way to deal with their problems than passing them on to us. As you said, it is only perpetuating the problem.
Lastly, in regards to your comment...
"This
choice of wording may sound innocuous, but it has strategic legal
ramifications designed to curtail our own rights to enjoy our relationships with
our domestic animals, as pet owners, responsible breeders, exhibitors,
animal sports enthusiasts, trainers, etc."
I do not believe for one second that these laws are being designed to "curtail our rights". Even though the Department of Social Services is in serious need of reform and has been know to almost ruin lives, I believe the children in our society are better off because we have a department like this. I think animals deserve alot of these same protections that we afford the children in our country.
Randy... it does sound like you have something against MUTTS. Are you a purebred from good stock? :-)
POST 10: anonymous
The only opinion I have, is that I have been reading, and
researching, and have decided that yes, I want to adopt a dog! An adult
Yorkie, in need of a home, and love and care for a lifetime. ANd i keep
reading all these websites begging, pleading, for help and homes and
volunteers for these dogs, and I fill out applications,,,,,,,,and I get
no response, and more important, NO DOG! So, whats up? Do homeless dogs
NEED a home, or shall I give up and be forced to go buy a puppy, when
I'd rather give a homeless dog a home! And an adult one at that?
THank you, I'm done opinionating.
:)
POST 11: PoochLuvr
I applaud! "Who Breeds shall Rescue! If you do NOT
RESCUE... you shall NOT BREED!"
"Do NOT Breed out of Greed!"
The ONLY reason someone should breed is to create better dogs then they
parents already are!
I am a Rescuer for 10 years, BUT I also own TWO DACHSHUND, which are
AKC, wonderful in health and temperament, which have had puppies.
In general, i do NOT believe anyone should be allowed to 'just breed
for the money or out of greed', or in anyway to support themselfs
financially.
We will NOT have a litter again until Fall 2005.
I am also a K9 Trainer and Behaviorist. Our puppies are DISTINCTIVELY
different then from the mass production of Backyard Breeders and
Millers.
This is what we do to protect our puppies from ending up at a shelter
(adopting a Dachshund is great.... IF you find one for adoption! 3D
Rescue in AZ has an armlong waiting list!).
Our Puppies COME WITH:
- MICROCHIP
- Copy of Health Check-Up from a certified Vet
- SPAY/NEUTER CONTRACT
- LIMITED AKC REGISTRATION
- F R E E DOG TRAINING
- F R E E PUPPY GUIDIANCE/TRAINING
- THEY A R E POTTY/KENNEL TRAINED BEFORE THEY GO TO A NEW HOME
it states on the contract that this dogs can under NO circumstances go
to a shelter or be changing ownership, without us knowing. the dogs can
come back to us at any time of there lifes!
here are some pics of our male, our female and 2 of our choppy and very
healthy puppies!
EVERY PERSON WILL GET AN INTERVIEW BEFORE WE EVEN ALLOW THEM TO COME TO
OUR HOME!
NOT EVERYONE QUALIFIES - AND WE CAN BE PICKY! WE HAD APROX. 250
APPLICANTS FOR 4 PUPPIES!!
Also, the QUALITY of this breed is down the drain. Dapples and Brindles
get mixed, nobody cares about size, the dogs have long legs, stretched
backs, bad temperament, you name it.
Douple Dapples are produced and called 'exotic' but are in fact a
genetic production of a greedy breeder..
Often the so called breeders have tons of dogs and push 5 litters per
year or more, while ETHICAL breeders breed once a year or every other
year if possible.
STUDS are put out for stud service under the age of ONE YEAR (just go
and check out the classifieds and see how old these dogs are), females
get bred the first heat, and then every heat.
Illnesses get ignored and passed on to future generations. PUPPY MILL
Dachshund are hitting the Soutwest, coming from Oklahoma etc. They are
in general 3 weeks younger then stated, and have swollen tummies, full
with parazites.
Most of them inbred, sick, scared and will cost 3 times more then from
a good, ethical and experienced Home breeder, who will also treat the
Dachshund like pets, not caged up like livestock!
mass production creates short living dogs - poor little souls, who many
believe they have to 'rescue' from the petstore. you are NOT rescueing!
by buying such pups, you contribute to animal cruelty, as you are
increasing the demand.... and the offerer will push and push and push more
puppies (aprox. 3000 puppies of all breeds are produced in mass
production PER WEEK!).
here is another good site for education:
www.nopuppymills.com
Sincerely,
PoochLuvr
POST 12: anonymous
I happened upon your page by accident and have read your
opinions and the responses from readers. I am really surpised by the tone
of the responses. As a pet owner who has had both pure-bred and mutts,
I have found both to be delightful companions with little or no health
issues. The pure-bred pup was beautiful, however, high-strung and hard
to train. The mutt we adopted is currently 5 mos. old, has been easy
to train and very calm for a puppy who is coming in to his own. We
rescued a puppy from Lifeline Puppy Rescue in Brighton, Colorado who came
from a New Mexico shelter and would have otherwise been put down. It is
a wonderful organization. I hope there are more like them out there
across the country.
Whenever your adopt a puppy whether pure-bred or mutt, it is really a
toss up on the size of the dog because even in pure-breds there are
anomalies that occur every day. Like all things in life, whether you adopt
a mutt or buy a pure-breed animal has a lot to do with the beliefs you
were raised with and a personal choice. That will never change.
I found your opinions to be amusing and meant to be taken in a
lighthearted manner but still give the reader something to think about. I
personally would like to see no need for animal shelters, having ALL
animals in good, loving homes. I wish everyone would consider
spaying/neutering their animals. I have often thought that if there was a law
requiring this to be done unless you are a licensed breeder would be a good
start to reducing the number of homeless animals.
Instead of licensing our dogs, maybe people should be licensed in order
to own a pet.
POST 13: anonymous
What did you say? We can only guess what would happen if the
dog's ancestors, the wolf, was allowed to breed unasissted? Probably
extinction? Hello !!!!! The wolf was doing fine thank you until MAN
decided it was "evil" and must be eradicated!! Do you live in reality, or
what? The wolf and it's own natural breeding "program" is doing extremely
well, as there are different types of wolves for different types of
climates. You sure seem to like to make bold statements, but please limit
them to things you actually know about, okay? Thanks.
POST 14: anonymous
I am a dog breeder with a very small operation. We are a husband and wife team and We absolutely love each and every one of our dogs. They are treated with the love and respect they deserve.. We have a very nice home for our dogs and in fact think more of them then we do most people. We produce purebred breeds only, because we try to breed the best quality of puppies possible. Improving on temperaments, socialization, over all health and over all dispositions. We are NOT a puppy mill!! We do not believe that dog breeders should have more dogs than they can physically care for or have a facility that is not well suited for breeding or housing these fine dogs just to make some money. These places (true puppy mills) are what give people like me a bad name. I invite and welcome buyers to come and meet the parents of the puppy they have bought from me. I am USDA and State licensed and am inspected on a regular basis. I also have my veterinarian come and visit my dogs on a regular basis. I feel badly for all of the mixed and purebred breeds who need adopted. A good responsible breeder, in my eyes, should never allow two different breeds of dogs to breed. This invites unsavory traits and characteristics to be birthed. Good solid bloodlines in a dog add to their intelligence, capabilities, and over all well being. Breeding should be controlled and selective breeding should be enforced. There would be less dogs in need of adoption. All of my puppies are sold with limited registration and a spay and neuter contract. A responsible dog owner needs to be RESPONSIBLE...We spend a lot of time learning as much as possible about the new homes our puppies will be going too. Just because a person has the money to purchase a puppy doesn't always mean they have the means to care for it properly. We do everything possible to ensure that our puppies go to good, responsible owners. Our goal is NOT to make as much money as possible off of our babies but to place our babies with a good home.
Don't forget - dogs don't have the ability to make decisions. They just react! So there is no such thing as a bad dog, just bad dog owners. There is nothing wrong with people who want a pure bred dog instead of a mixed breed. They want the best qualities in a pet that they can get. And there will still be people who want to adopt a mixed breed (bless those people). I have a lot of opinions about this subject and I get angry when the news media makes us (good breeders) all out to be the bad guys.
POST 15: the webmaster
This is a quote from post 14
A good responsible breeder, in my eyes, should never allow two different breeds of dogs to breed. This invites unsavory traits and characteristics to be birthed. Good solid bloodlines in a dog add to their intelligence, capabilities, and over all well being. Breeding should be controlled and selective breeding should be enforced.
There is a group of people that feel this way about humans. I don't agree with them either. Many people seem to think that animals are here to serve us, I do not. So... if animals are not here to serve us, why should we be breeding them to act or look a certain way for our benefit, why do we think we even have the right to attempt to control the destiny of another specie of animal? Why do we think we have the right to play god or the role of mother nature? Our planet will be much better off when we humans decide to live in harmony with our environment instead of trying to change it to our liking.